Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Submissions Editor
Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Fri, 13 September 2019 18:46 UTC
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> Thanks for the quick and careful reply. After reading your note, I > think everything was done correctly and with the right timing up to > the point that Adrian indicated he was willing to continue. After > that, it would have been a reasonable option to ask him if he was > willing to extend for some months as necessary to let other things > settle down before you launched the feedback period. when one dos not acknowledge that there are serious underlying problems, it is easiest to deflect and claim paper rituals [0]. when one does not perceive those underlying problems, the desire to proceed overrides considerations of stability and stewardship. "we need to make progress here." > the timing is exquisitely unfortunate. it is interesting to contrast this with the sensitivity being pushed as tone policing in email. the good news is that we can corporataize and destroy our instutions politely. randy [0] - for an amazing, ans thankfully unrelated, exercise of this form of denial, see mit and harvard dealing with the epstein issue.
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Michael StJohns
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Michael StJohns
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… John C Klensin
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… John C Klensin
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Randy Bush
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Richard Barnes
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Mike StJohns
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Randy Bush
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Randy Bush
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Melinda Shore
- ietf@ list as a proxy for community opinion (not) Keith Moore
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… John C Klensin
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Nico Williams
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Randy Bush
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Michael StJohns
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… John C Klensin
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Ted Hardie