Re: [79all] IETF Badge

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Mon, 15 November 2010 23:03 UTC

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Ole,
	I took your TSA reference as hyperbole referring to strict enforcement 
of a badge requirement.  I apologize if I misunderstood.  I don't think 
anyone would dispute that the level of "badge enforcement" and 
"security" was substantively different than any other IETF, and this is 
what I was referring to.  I was also voicing support for the old badge 
enforcement policy for future meetings.

(I also support less restrictions on the issuing of visas, at least for 
IETF attendees, but there's not much I/we can do about that either.)

Lou

On 11/15/2010 5:47 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
>
> Lou,
>
> I see. So you had to take off your shoes, leave water behind and be
> frisked and/or scanned at this meeting? I can't say I went to every
> meeting room, but I did not notice any of that going on.
>
> Also, when I say "suggesting" it's sort of meant to be a forward
> looking statement not some idea that what we had will be the new
> norm. I'd love to not have to write this down, but if I did it
> would be something along the lines of "Entrance to IETF meetings
> is for registered attendeed, wear you badge at all times, you may
> be challenged if you don't do so." And maybe add specifics as
> was done in this case.
>
> I agree that this was a great meeting, thanks to the host and everyone
> else involved including the hotel staff!
>
> Ole
>
> Ole J. Jacobsen
> Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
> Cisco Systems
> Tel: +1 408-527-8972   Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
> E-mail: ole@cisco.com  URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj
>
>
>
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Lou Berger wrote:
>
>> Humm, seeing that's what we just had, I'm not sure where you're coming from.
>>
>> BTW I don't think there was any real surprise in this, and it doesn't diminish
>> from our local hosts' fabulous job.  I thank them for their efforts and
>> hospitality.
>>
>> Lou
>>
>> On 11/15/2010 2:44 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Lou Berger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Xiangsong,
>>>> 	I suspect you may have misunderstood me.  I'm endorsing the old
>>>> practice of letting in (to meetings) any who wish *without* payment or
>>>> badge.
>>>> Sure they won't be able to go into the terminal room, but that isn't a
>>>> significant issue.  Them eating the snacks could possibly turn into an
>>>> issue,
>>>> but it hasn't to date.
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>
>>> I am sure this happens already to some extent and I don't think it's
>>> an issue (having a guest speaker, someone who wants to find out about
>>> a specific working group, whatever...). So long as this does not turn
>>> into a way to abuse the system, I don't think anyone is suggesting TSA
>>> style security at our meetings.
>>>
>>> Ole
>>>
>>>
>>> Ole J. Jacobsen
>>> Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
>>> Cisco Systems
>>> Tel: +1 408-527-8972   Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
>>> E-mail: ole@cisco.com  URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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