RE: Quick follow-up to discussion on fees for IETF 108

shogunx@sleekfreak.ath.cx Fri, 12 June 2020 12:36 UTC

Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 08:36:09 -0400
From: shogunx@sleekfreak.ath.cx
To: Mehmet Ersue <mersue@gmail.com>
cc: 'Jay Daley' <jay@ietf.org>, 'ietf' <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: Quick follow-up to discussion on fees for IETF 108
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Fees for remote participation will lead to a spectacular fail, IMHO.  If 
the goal is to break the proper functioning of this body, remote 
participation fees will go a long way to ensuring that.

On Fri, 12 Jun 2020, Mehmet Ersue wrote:

> 
> Dear Jay, All,
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>  
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> I would like to use this opportunity to give feedback on the unfortunate
> fees for remote participation.
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>  
> 
> IETF has many longstanding and dedicated contributors who do not have an
> employment but still contribute to different IETF areas. For example I
> retired 1.5 years ago and am a member of the OPS directorate as well as the
> secretary of the YANG Doctors team. Since retirement I was attending nearly
> all meetings remotely. The only meeting I could attend physically was the
> last Prague meeting where I paid the travel and a day ticket privately. The
> rest of the meeting I was following from the hotel room remotely.
> 
>  
> 
> I think a limited Fee Waiver Program is not really helpful. What if there
> are more than 100 people asking for a waiver which all are valid cases of
> dedicated contributors?
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>  
> 
> I believe IETF should be interested to keep its longstanding members which
> do useful contributions.
> 
> There are easy ways to verify whether a person is indeed not able to pay the
> meeting fee so that misuse can be avoided.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mehmet
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>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> 
> > From: ietf <ietf-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Jay Daley
> 
> > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 12:53 AM
> 
> > To: ietf <ietf@ietf.org>
> 
> > Subject: Quick follow-up to discussion on fees for IETF 108
> 
> >
> 
> > This is a quick follow-up to the discussion about registration fees for
> IETF 108.
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> >
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> > The LLC board met earlier today to consider the community feedback
> 
> > received so far and will spend the next few days reviewing the situation
> and
> 
> > consulting with the IESG with the aim of responding to the community early
> 
> > next week.
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> >
> 
> > Jay
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> >
> 
> > --
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> > Jay Daley
> 
> > IETF Executive Director
> 
> > jay@ietf.org
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>  
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Quick follow-up to discussion on fees for IETF 108 Jay Daley
RE: Quick follow-up to discussion on fees for IET… Mehmet Ersue
RE: Quick follow-up to discussion on fees for IET… shogunx