Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages
Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> Thu, 14 July 2011 13:34 UTC
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>>>>> "Dave" == Dave CROCKER <dhc2@dcrocker.net> writes: >> You may want to refer to Section 5.2 of RFC 5378, which addresses >> this issue: >> >> "Each Contributor agrees that any statement in a Contribution, >> whether generated automatically or otherwise, that states or >> implies that the Contribution is confidential or subject to any >> privilege, can be disregarded for all purposes, and will be of no >> force or effect." Dave> It's excellent that the issue was covered in the RFC. Dave> My question is how the contents of that RFC can be binding on Dave> random IETF participants? It can't, except that they agree to the terms when they sign up at the web server. If the IETF deleted posts that were marked confidential then the IETF would be simply enforcing this. -- ] He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzx1ycLXQSE> then sign the petition.
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