Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the home.
Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Fri, 13 September 2013 08:28 UTC
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Ted, What I like about this message is that you have demonstrated the *potential* severability of these issues. Things are set up as they are for a matter of scaling. Clearly it ain't perfect, and as one of my mentors would say, that represents an opportunity. It's also pretty clear that we should be reviewing this stuff in consultation with ICANN's SSAC committee. Eliot On 9/12/13 7:21 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > Fair enough, but if the goal is to prevent pervasive surveillance, > simply using a key exchange which provides perfect forward secrecy > will do that, even given the pathetic state of https security given > the realities of the web and the CA's out there. > > Still, I agree with the general precept that perfect should not enemy > of the better, and DNSSEC certainly adds value. I just get worried > about people who seem to think that DNSSEC is a panacea. > > - Ted > >
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Russ Housley
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Joe Abley
- Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the home. Jim Gettys
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Paul Wouters
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Joe Abley
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Ted Lemon
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… SM
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Michael Richardson
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Tony Finch
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Joe Abley
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… David Morris
- Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the ho… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Evan Hunt
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Dickson, Brian
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Arturo Servin
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Theodore Ts'o
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Theodore Ts'o
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Theodore Ts'o
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… David Morris
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Eliot Lear
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Dickson, Brian
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… robert bownes
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Glen Wiley
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Martin Rex
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Jim Gettys
- Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC int… Masataka Ohta