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Re: The Next Generation

"lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk" <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk> Wed, 04 September 2019 02:55 UTC

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Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 02:55:38 +0000
From: "lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk" <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk>
To: IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>, Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
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There is no mention of age in RFC7704. (That document wouldn't getpublished today - it was at the discretion of the RFC Editor.)

"no one chooses their... gender"? where have you been? so unwoke.

L.
"there's nothing wrong with that, so let's fix it!"

Lloyd Wood lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk http://about.me/lloydwood 

    On Wednesday, 4 September 2019, 10:36:36 GMT+10, Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Hi,

I noticed there were some parts of the last IETF meeting (105) that were sparsely attended. And, the attendees of those meetings tended to be white, mostly male, and at least middle-aged. There's nothing wrong with that: no one chooses their age, gender, or skin color.
Although there is value in experience, maybe the IETF should work to hand off some duties to more diverse younger people.
As a start, I propose identifying some current groups that could be better-handled by younger and more diverse people. The one I have in mind is CAPPORT, but I'm not tied to it..
thanks,Rob

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