Re: Meet Only line - I object

Lloyd W <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk> Tue, 09 February 2021 02:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: Meet Only line - I object
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 13:27:44 +1100
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Well, the acronym could be retrofitted.

Stay Home Meet Online Optimally?

StayHome Meet Online and Offline?

Stay Home Meet Over Objections?

Stay Home Meet Out of hOurs in the middle of the night?

The passing reference to MUD, object-oriented throws me. Those things have terrible interfaces. Meetings are not text chat rooms...

I doubt I'd schmooze in a SHMOO environment.

Lloyd Wood
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> On 4 Feb 2021, at 05:35, Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org> wrote:
> 
> I've raised this point as well in various chat rooms etc. Having the title of the WG say "meet online only" implies a direction that I don't agree with, and so I haven't participated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris.
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Looking at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-shmoo/ballot/, I noted that there is no mailing list for this. Had there been one, this note would have been posted to it. I apologize for the wide distribution.
>> 
>> I can see setting up a policy for meetings that are cancelled by Force Majuere, but the fact that we have had such doesn’t call for stopping having meetings. The fact is that face-to-face meetings have value - people can get to know each other and set up a social basis for discussion, if nothing else. I can see scaling back - our European colleagues find the summer meeting timing awkward at best. But I don;’t see the temporary effect of having a global pandemic as justification for simply shutting down to mailing lists - which would be the likely effect of failing to meet.
>> 
>> So yes, I think we would do well to meet for IETF 111 and on.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>