Re: [103all] Visas for IETF 103 in Thailand
Clint Chaplin <clint.chaplin@gmail.com> Wed, 15 August 2018 19:28 UTC
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 12:28:40 -0700
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Subject: Re: [103all] Visas for IETF 103 in Thailand
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Instead of " I am attending an IETF meeting at the Fairmont Hotel in Montreal", I say " I am attending an IETF conference at the Fairmont Hotel in Montreal" "Meeting" can imply business meeting, which is close to work. "Conference" does not have the same implication. I once had to spend five minutes explaining to Canada Immigration what kind of "meeting" I was attending. On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 12:19 PM Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote: > On Wed, 15 Aug 2018, Bob Hinden wrote: > > > When asked by immigration why I am there I answer something like “I am > > attending an IETF meeting at the Fairmont Hotel in Montreal”. That is > > truthful and avoids the work issue. I haven’t been rejected yet :-) > > Yes, it's best to avoid the word "work" when travelling. You're there to > attend a conference, meet vendors or similar. You're there for business. > Never "to work". > > For thailand: > > http://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/changes-visa-exempt.php > > > http://www.thaiembassy.org/helsinki/en/customize/28150-ConferenceBusiness-meetingSeminar.html > > "1. Foreign nationals wishing to enter the Kingdom of Thailand to > attend a MICE event, which is endorsed or sponsored by TCEB, without being > employed or working for income, are regarded as tourists" > > Having spent a total of over a year and traveled in and out of thailand a > non-trivial amount of time, I'd recommend to make things easier for > everybody and just say you're going there for tourism if you're a passport > holder from one of those 55 countries. If someone questions that, point to > above rule and say you interpreted it as you should say tourism. Apologise > profusely for the mix-up. > > -- > Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se -- Clint Chaplin Principal Standards Engineer Samsung Research America
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