Re: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls-authz-07

Alfred Hönes <ah@tr-sys.de> Thu, 12 February 2009 00:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls-authz-07
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At Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:20:14 -0500 (EST), Dean Anderson  wrote:

>                                                       ...  And as
> programmer and developer, I will probably have some non-patented
> alternatives to present.
>
>               --Dean

Dean,
that's really laudable progress, leading back to technical discussion
of possible alternative solutions.
Please indeed prepare such I-D as soon as feasible.


I heartly invite other interested parties as well to submit their
proposals to the TLS WG, and I hereby explicitely would like to
address those many folks that newly started being interested in
IETF work in general and further development and application of
TLS in particular.

In order to make life easier for all participants,
I suggest to start with streamlined draft names like
draft-<author>-tlz-authz-<xxx>-00 .

The WG should be able to perform an unprejudized discussion
of alternative proposals before it comes to determine consensus
whether there is enough interest and support to warrant adopting
'TLS Authorization' as a new work item, and if so, which
draft(s) to base the WG project on.

I personally promise to review sound draft proposals in time
before such WG decision (perhaps not initial -00 versions,
only enough elaborate refined versions).


One immediate question to the group and the respective author:

Draft-housley-tls-authz-extns only defines a framework, and
according to the past exegesis of the imprecise IPR statements
under discussion, only the application of that framework to
specific use cases might be encumbered by these claims.
However, the recent I-D, draft-keromytis-tls-authz-keynote-01,
together with a supporting sibling document,
draft-keromytis-keynote-x509-01 (both still rough and lacking
important details), defines a concrete instantiation of that
framework.
In how far is that instantiation encumbered by these IPR claims?
Is it burdened with other patent claims?


Kind regards,
  Alfred Hönes.

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