Re: Proposed New Note Well

Brian E Carpenter <> Tue, 05 January 2016 00:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: Proposed New Note Well
To: Stephan Wenger <>, "Scott O. Bradner" <>, "John C. Klensin" <>
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 13:35:07 +1300
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On 05/01/2016 11:36, Stephan Wenger wrote:
> IMO, the “benefits from” language extends the scope of what is currently codified in BCP79...

Exactly my point.

> If, after community review, the IETF at large decides that an extension of BCP79’s scope is what it wants, then why not put it in the Note Well?  

Rather, I would say, why not put it in BCP 79? It isn't hard - basically it needs
a one paragraph RFC (not counting boilerplate) to do so.

"Section 6.6 of RFC 3979 (When is a Disclosure Required?) is replaced by the
following text:

   IPR disclosures under Sections 6.1.1. and 6.1.2 are required with
   respect to IPR that is owned directly or indirectly by or otherwise
   benefits the individual or his/her employer or sponsor (if any) or
   to IPR that such persons otherwise have the right to license or assert."

I don't like the idea of legislating on such a fundamental question other than
through a BCP.

Note that this is not a trivial extension. If companies A and B have a private
patent cartel (a.k.a. cross-licensing), contributors from company B would
be caught by this extension if aware of a relevant patent owned by company A.
That really isn't something we can slide in through the back door.