Re: Registration details for IETF 108
Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com> Mon, 01 June 2020 15:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: Registration details for IETF 108
From: Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com>
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2020 08:41:20 -0700
Cc: Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com>, Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com>, "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>, IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>
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Jason, As a fairly regular in-person attendee (I think I am 97 or 98 meetings by now), I would agree that this can be seen as a discounted meeting fee, and it seems reasonable. However, I don’t think we should ignore those many attendees who never actually make it to in-person meetings and who have attended via Meetecho or more recently the YouTube live streams. There may be many reasons for their remote-only participation, but one has to assume that at least one reason is the registration fee (and of course travel). These attendees are now faced with a fee which previously did not exist. I am sure this came as a bit of a shock to them. I can think of a whole bunch of alternative solutions including “click here if you want to sponsor another remote participant” or whatever, but it is probably too late to implement now. Ole > On 1 Jun 2020, at 08:07, Livingood, Jason <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com> wrote: > > It's interesting that the issue has been framed as a new fee will be charged to participate in an IETF meeting. But there's been a fee to attend an IETF meeting for as long as I've participated in the IETF. I might suggest that another way of considering this is that the typical meeting fee is being discounted for the virtual meeting. > > Jason > (not speaking for the IETF LLC - personal view) > Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher The Internet Protocol Journal Office: +1 415-550-9433 Cell: +1 415-370-4628 Web: protocoljournal.org E-mail: olejacobsen@me.com E-mail: ole@protocoljournal.org Skype: organdemo
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