Re: Registration details for IETF 108

Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com> Mon, 01 June 2020 15:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: Registration details for IETF 108
From: Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com>
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Jason,

As a fairly regular in-person attendee (I think I am 97 or 98 meetings by now), I
would agree that this can be seen as a discounted meeting fee, and it seems reasonable.

However, I don’t think we should ignore those many attendees who never actually make
it to in-person meetings and who have attended via Meetecho or more recently the
YouTube live streams. There may be many reasons for their remote-only participation, 
but one has to assume that at least one reason is the registration fee (and of course
travel). These attendees are now faced with a fee which previously did not exist.
I am sure this came as a bit of a shock to them. I can think of a whole bunch of alternative
solutions including “click here if you want to sponsor another remote participant” or
whatever, but it is probably too late to implement now.

Ole

> On 1 Jun 2020, at 08:07, Livingood, Jason <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com> wrote:
> 
> It's interesting that the issue has been framed as a new fee will be charged to participate in an IETF meeting. But there's been a fee to attend an IETF meeting for as long as I've participated in the IETF. I might suggest that another way of considering this is that the typical meeting fee is being discounted for the virtual meeting.
> 
> Jason
> (not speaking for the IETF LLC - personal view)
> 

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