T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings
Tony Hansen <tony@att.com> Fri, 06 August 2004 05:09 UTC
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Subject: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings
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I know, this isn't the most important issue in the world. But, I want to say that I miss the IETF meeting T-shirts. As confirmed by Harald at tonight's plenary, the T-shirts are normally paid for by the sponsor. And since we don't have a sponsor here, there was no T-shirt. The first time in recent years that we almost didn't have a sponsor was in Adelaide (IETF 47, March 2000). We got down there, there were problems with the original sponsor and lots of scrambling occurred. Among the other things that occured was that there was no T-shirt handed out when we registered. (Later on in the week, the people who stayed to the end of the plenary were surprised with shirts, collared even. But that doesn't the affect the rest of the story.) So, what happened? In true IETF fashion, a bar BOF met, designed a T-shirt, and made arrangements with a T-shirt shop a couple of blocks from the convention center. Those people who wanted a T-shirt walked over there, picked a T-shirt color, put in an order, paid their money, and got a shirt a couple of days later. (It's definitely one of my most favorite IETF shirts.) I don't know exactly how many people wound up ordering their shirt this way, but I know the owner worked numerous overtime hours to meet the demand. A few salient points can be garnered from the above: many people are willing to pay extra to get their IETF T-shirt, and there are people who are willing to work on T-shirt designs. In DC, IETF 61, we have a sponsor scheduled. So we'll likely have T-shirts. Thank you Alcatel! Here's a suggestion for IETF 61: modify the registration web page to let people specify the size of the T-shirt they'd like to get. Usually, a sponsor has to estimate the number of people who want each T-shirt size. This leads to overbuys of some sizes and underbuys of other sizes. And it leads to some people being dissatisfied with the sizes that they were forced to receive. Continuing this thought, here's a suggestion for the next IETF meeting that doesn't have a sponsor, whether it's IETF 62 or some future meeting: Take that part of the registration form that asks for T-shirt size and add one more choice: none. Then charge the people who pick a T-shirt an extra $15 to cover the cost of the shirt, and those that don't want it won't pay for it. Then beforehand, set up a mailing list for those interested in designing the shirt, exchanging designs, and picking one out. I'm sure you'll get enough takers to do it. Tony Hansen tony+ietf@maillennium.att.com _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf me… Tony Hansen
- Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future iet… Hadmut Danisch
- Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future iet… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future iet… Jari Arkko
- Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future iet… Tim Chown
- Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future iet… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- RE: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future iet… Michel Py
- Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future iet… Michael Richardson
- Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future iet… James M. Polk
- YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for futu… Hadmut Danisch
- Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future iet… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future iet… Ben Crosby
- Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future iet… John Loughney
- Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for … Dave Aronson
- RE: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for … Dr Harsh Verma
- Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for … grenville armitage
- Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for … Ben Crosby
- RE: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future iet… Glen Zorn
- Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future iet… Michael Richardson
- RE: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future iet… Daniel Senie
- RE: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future iet… shogunx
- Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for … Hadmut Danisch
- RE: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for … Desiree Miloshevic
- RE: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for … Paul Hoffman / VPNC
- Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for … Melinda Shore
- Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for … Charles E.Perkins
- Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for … Ole Jacobsen
- RE: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future iet… Tony Hain