RE: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service

Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org> Wed, 18 November 2020 13:25 UTC

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From: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>
To: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>, "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
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Subject: RE: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 13:25:38 +0000
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Hi!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf <ietf-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Nick Hilliard
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 7:30 AM
> To: Theodore Y. Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
> Cc: ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
> 
> Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote on 17/11/2020 23:11:
> > As others have said, most of the arguments on this are pretty weak on
> > both the "pro" and "anti" side.
> 
> ^^^ this
> 
> In any event, the figures show clearly that ftp usage has declined to the point
> that it's very much a minority thing these days.  Even if the IETF continues to
> provide ftp access for the time being, this decline is continuing, so from a
> consumer point of view, the practical approach would be to start thinking
> about migrating scripts away from it.

... and I'll again extend my offer, if you have a FTP dependent script in production now and need help with the migration to either https:// or rsync:// please reach out to me offline.  Either me or volunteers from home organization will do our best to help you port.

Roman