Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17
"Sam K. Aldrin" <aldrin.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 17 April 2014 22:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17
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From: "Sam K. Aldrin" <aldrin.ietf@gmail.com>
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Hi Jeff, Comments inline. On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > Sam, > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 03:11:15PM -0700, Sam K. Aldrin wrote: >> %sam - If this MIB allows write access, do you/WG anticipate, any extension to the MIB should also provide write-access as well? For example: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-mpls-mib/ augments this base MIB to support MPLS. It adds more confusion than solving the issue as base MIB supports write-access, but augmented/ MIB extension doesn't. >> >> As the BFD MIB authors were not supportive of write-access objects in the MIBs, why to have them in the first place? > > As noted in earlier mailing list chatter, there is some support for write > access in existing implementations. Given the lack of significant detail > when pressed for the name of such an implementation, I'm suspecting smaller > vendor or internal implementation. That's still sufficient to leave write > available. > > Given that one of the original contexts of asking if we could remove write > was whether IETF was being asked to provide such a thing for MPLS-TP with > related impact on your extension MIB and the answer was "no", that shouldn't > be the main criteria. No. The context of my question is not related to MPLS-TP as such, but write-access support in general. I should have added 'clarification' in my earlier email. > > My suspicion is that if we were to ship the base MIB with writeable objects, > we may be forced to consider similar things for the extension MIB(s). Both, bfd-mpls and mpls-TP MIB's are extensions to base MIBs, MPLS-TE and BFD-MIB respectively, with write-access. Had to do write-access because of the reason you've mentioned above, which is base MIB. It would be painful to publish/support write-access MIB's when there is no clear interest. Hence my clarification question. -sam > > -- Jeff
- Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Black, David
- RE: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Nobo Akiya (nobo)
- RE: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Black, David
- RE: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Adrian Farrel
- RE: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Black, David
- Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Sam K. Aldrin
- Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Jeffrey Haas
- Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Jeffrey Haas
- Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Sam K. Aldrin
- RE: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Nobo Akiya (nobo)
- Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Sam K. Aldrin
- RE: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Nobo Akiya (nobo)
- RE: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Nobo Akiya (nobo)
- Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Sam Aldrin
- Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Randy Presuhn
- Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Sam K. Aldrin
- Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Randy Presuhn
- Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Sam Aldrin
- Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Benoit Claise
- Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Benoit Claise
- Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Thomas Nadeau
- Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-bfd-mib-17 Benoit Claise