RE: how to contact the IETF

"Ed Juskevicius" <edj.etc@gmail.com> Tue, 10 February 2009 16:47 UTC

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From: Ed Juskevicius <edj.etc@gmail.com>
To: 'Melinda Shore' <mshore@cisco.com>
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Melinda wrote:

> I don't really how understand "count against" would
> work in practice.

I agree.  This would be another important consideration for any policy, and
(I suspect) not very easy to define.

Regards,

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: Melinda Shore [mailto:mshore@cisco.com] 
Sent: February 10, 2009 11:36 AM
To: Ed Juskevicius; 'Noel Chiappa'
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Subject: Re: how to contact the IETF

On 2/10/09 11:34 AM, "Ed Juskevicius" <edj.etc@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am not trying to pour cold water on your idea here, but rather I am
> wondering how something like this could be formalized, versus handled as
an
> exceptional case when and if it occurs.

I don't really how understand "count against" would
work in practice.

Melinda