Re: bettering open source involvement

"Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <> Tue, 02 August 2016 04:13 UTC

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From: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <>
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Subject: Re: bettering open source involvement
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Coming back from vacation following IETF 96, I’m very happy to see this discussion and learn of the new list. I agree strongly with Melinda on the need for IETF participation in open source communities. The IETF hackathon has been pretty successful in terms of bringing open source communities to the IETF (e.g. OpenDaylight, OPNFV, ONOS,, RIOT, etc.). Its important to engage in the other direction as well. 
Regarding the concerns about time scales, I believe IETF work can keep pace such that it is relevant within open source projects. Working group drafts can and should be iterated along with open source code that implements/leverages these drafts.
I attended FOSDEM for the first time earlier this year. It would be great to see more IETFers there in 2017. There was a new “classroom” devoted to SDN and NFV in 2016 that I expect will be a part of the 2017 program as well. IETFers could provide valuable contributions there as I’m sure in many other areas as well. 


On 7/28/16, 10:34 AM, "ietf on behalf of Melinda Shore" < on behalf of> wrote:

>On 7/28/16 2:51 AM, Riccardo Bernardini wrote:
>> I have direct experience with FOSDEM ( that is
>> held every year end of January/beginning of February in Bruxelles.
>> Personally, I like it, I find it very active (~5000 participants/year)
>> and refreshing (after a year buzz-wording).  Joking I say that it looks
>> almost like IETF's incubator... :-) (the density of geeks per square
>> meter is similar :-)
>I think that if we wait for people to come to us, we'll be
>waiting for people to come to us.  I spoke a few months ago
>at PyCon US, and while it was specifically about getdns (an
>advanced DNS library) it was also an opportunity to talk about
>DNS privacy and security issues, and that mitigations are
>specified and available, along with ongoing work in the IETF.
>It was an extremely positive experience, highly recommended.
>Also, non-IETF hackathons are a good thing.