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Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sat, 02 May 2026 21:01 UTC

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Date: Sun, 03 May 2026 09:00:55 +1200
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Subject: Re: List moderator action
To: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>, IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>, Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>
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On 03-May-26 07:32, Rob Sayre wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Apologies in advance for being a giant pain.
> 
> Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org <mailto:lars@eggert.org>> wrote:
>  > If you read Section 3.3 of RFC 5378 you will find the “specific context” is about documents.
> 
> It is not. It is about "Contributions" in caps.
> 
> While I agree with the goal of the IESG statement, and the moderator actions here, we have to go fix RFC 5378 for this one.

What needs fixing? It says that the IETF requires the right to make derivative works of all contributions, which includes emails.

The final paragraph of section 3.3 allows "no derivative works" legends only for two special cases: "information about proprietary technologies" and republishing standards from other SDOs. Most emails are neither of those cases; therefore "no derivative works" legends are forbidden.

     Brian

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