Re: If Muslims are blocked by the U.S., should the IETF respond?
Emily Shepherd <emily@emilyshepherd.me> Mon, 30 January 2017 22:09 UTC
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Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 22:08:21 +0000
From: Emily Shepherd <emily@emilyshepherd.me>
To: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>
Subject: Re: If Muslims are blocked by the U.S., should the IETF respond?
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On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 05:04:59PM -0500, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: >What I tell people is that the opinion of the IETF as an >institution isn't >very relevant as the IETF does not actually have any formal powers or means >of enforcing them. If control over the IETF was to pass to a cabal led by >the SCO countries who decided to put backdoors into all the crypto >protocols, then development of Internet standards would simply shift >elsewhere. Yes, exactly! :) This, this response is perfect. My point is that we don't need anything further than this. There is no reason for the IETF to have any stance on this other than that. Many Thanks, Emily -- Emily Shepherd Computer Science Graduate, MEng (Hons) W: https://emilyshepherd.me/ M: +44(0)7575 721 231
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