Re: Fwd: Things that used to be clear (was Re: Evolving Documents (nee "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.)

[Eric Rescorla <[e-mail]>]

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 11:04 PM Randy Bush <[e-mail]> wrote:

> >>> I want us to go be able to produce operational guidance how to
> >>> operate BGP-4 networks at a faster rate than the IETF can review and
> >>> publish at this point in time.
>
> the ops communities have such mechanisms.  the ietf is not the ideal
> place to seek operational guidance for bgp networks.
>
> does the ops community want the ietf's imprimatur on an under-reviewed
> documents?
>

First, let me say that i am not an operator, so I do not know what
operators need.

With that said, it's not uncommon to see operational guidance published in
ad hoc
forms (see, for instance: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Server_Side_TLS).
Obviously,
the IETF could and does publish this kind of thing (cf. RFC 7525), but
publishing
a new RFC with consensus whenever you want to make a change along these
lines
is pretty heavyweight (which is likely why 7525 is now out of date). So,
it's not clear
to me that the current situation is that ideal.

-Ekr