Re: perspective of discussion about I-D.farresnickel-harassment

[Melinda Shore <[e-mail]>]

YES.  Thank you.
On Mar 22, 2015 8:58 AM, "Alia Atlas" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Would it be possible for everyone posting about this draft to
> consider - for even just a day - that he or she might in fact
> be the SUBJECT of the harassment - instead of trying to
> figure out how to game the system assuming that he is
> an unrepentant respondent.
>
> While the joke goes that "true friends help you bury the body",
> I earnestly hope that we aren't trying to figure out how people
> can successfully accomplish manslaughter and not have it
> raise to the level of murder - nor pretending that the SUBJECT
> of the harassment isn't the one wrongfully impacted.
>
> For once, consider that if you don't know anyone who has been
> harassed (not necessarily at the IETF) and have not been
> harassed - then (a) you PROBABLY aren't listening or asking
> the right questions and (b) you aren't the focus of why this needs
> to be handled.
>
> If your concern is that you might obliviously misstep and be called
> out on it - then yes - you may - and you may actually need to think
> about it beforehand or learn from it afterwards.  Welcome to life.
>
> To quote another stereotyped saying:  "Women are afraid of being
> physically hurt.  Men are afraid of being embarrassed."  Enough
> already!  I'm already embarrassed for you and your lack of perspective.
>
> Regards,
> Alia
>