Re: Registration details for IETF 108

S Moonesamy <> Sun, 31 May 2020 22:08 UTC

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Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 15:03:22 -0700
To: Eric Rescorla <>, "Joel M. Halpern" <>,
From: S Moonesamy <>
Subject: Re: Registration details for IETF 108
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Dear Mr Rescorla, Mr Halpern,
At 02:13 PM 31-05-2020, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>I don't think the characterization of this as "pay-to-play" is accurate. You
>are certainly free to participate in mailing lists, github, etc.
>What is being charged here is a fee to participate [0] in real-time virtual
>meetings, just as there is one charged for attending in-person meetings.

At 02:24 PM 31-05-2020, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
>I agree with Eric in his description.  From where I sit, this seems 
>a reasonable decision by the leadership.

I am familiar with the "you can participate on the mailing lists" 
argument.  I would not dispute it given that I have participated in 
mailing list discussions over time.  I used to have the top-most 
count of reviews from the Southern Hemisphere [1].

I should be able to estimate the costs of running a real-time virtual 
meeting as I have chaired a Finance Committee.  I commented about the 
proposed budget and the IETF LLC Executive Director pointed out a 
mistake which I made.  The point is that I understand that someone 
has to pay for the costs of running the IETF.  I also understand that 
I will be "in the rough" on this matter.

S. Moonesamy

1. I'll exclude Australia and New Zealand for accuracy.