Re: [Gendispatch] Academia (Re: Diversity and Inclusiveness in the IETF)

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Thu, 25 February 2021 21:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Academia (Re: Diversity and Inclusiveness in the IETF)
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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[private reply]

On 2/25/21 4:21 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

> Nevertheless, it is in general hard to get RFCs recognised as valuable for tenure and promotion purposes, compared to more traditional publication streams such as highly-rated journals. That's one reason we didhttps://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1672308.1672315  but I'm not sure it has had much impact.

Back when I was a university researcher, one of my rejected grant 
proposals got returned with a note from a reviewer that said "you're 
spending time at the wrong conferences and citing the wrong kinds of 
references".   (Referring to IETF conferences and RFCs.)