RE: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod)
"Bert Wijnen - IETF" <bertietf@bwijnen.net> Tue, 22 April 2008 21:23 UTC
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From: Bert Wijnen - IETF <bertietf@bwijnen.net>
To: Andy Bierman <ietf@andybierman.com>, Randy Presuhn <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:23:29 +0200
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Well said Andy. And I support the charter as well! Bert Wijnen > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: ietf-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-bounces@ietf.org]Namens Andy > Bierman > Verzonden: dinsdag 22 april 2008 23:14 > Aan: Randy Presuhn > CC: ietf@ietf.org > Onderwerp: Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod) > > > Randy Presuhn wrote: > > Hi - > > > >> From: "Eric Rescorla" <ekr@networkresonance.com> > >> To: <ietf@ietf.org>; <iesg@ietf.org> > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:10 AM > >> Subject: Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod) > > ... > >> Accordingly, if this WG is to be formed, the entire section (and > >> corresponding milestones) which specifies the technology needs to be > >> removed. Rather, the first work item should be to select a technical > >> approach. > > ... > > > > I think the simplest answer would be to simply publish the work > that's already > > been done and not bother with the IETF. There is simply no > value in wasting > > electrons on battles like this. Sure, some opportunities for > technological > > refinement and building a stronger community consensus migh tbe > lost, but > > that might be a small price to pay in comparison to the time and energy > > required for all this pointless hoop-jumping. Particularly > since the proposed/ > > draft/standard distinction has become so meaningless, it makes more > > sense to just publish the spec and ignore the peanut gallery. > > > > This 'simple' approach doesn't move standardized network configuration > along at all, so it is not my first choice. > > IMO, there is strong community consensus for the charter as it > is currently written. There are several technical approaches, > such as 'continue to write data models in XSD' which are > technically viable, but have no community consensus at all. > > I don't think a formal WG process is needed to determine that > the strongest consensus exists for the approach currently outlined > in the charter. The 15 people on the design team represented > a wide cross section of those actually interested in this work. > I am among the 10 - 15 people who were not involved in the design team, > but agree with the charter. That seems like a lot of consensus > for this technical approach. > > > > > Randy > > Andy > > _______________________________________________ > IETF mailing list > IETF@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Chris Newman
- Re: [NGO] WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Langua… Phil Shafer
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Eric Rescorla
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Andy Bierman
- RE: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Bert Wijnen - IETF
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Eric Rescorla
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Randy Presuhn
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… David Partain
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Eric Rescorla
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Eric Rescorla
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… David Partain
- RE: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Bert Wijnen - IETF
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… David Partain
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Andy Bierman
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Eric Rescorla
- RE: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Bert Wijnen - IETF
- RE: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Bert Wijnen - IETF
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… David Partain
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Eric Rescorla
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Randy Presuhn
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Eric Rescorla
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Randy Presuhn
- RE: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… David Harrington
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… David Partain
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Eric Rescorla
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Andy Bierman
- Rough consensus among WHOM? Dave Crocker
- RE: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Mehmet Ersue
- RE: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Bert Wijnen - IETF
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Michael Thomas
- RE: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… David Harrington
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Andy Bierman
- RE: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Leslie Daigle
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Wes Hardaker
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Tom.Petch
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… David Partain
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Bernard Aboba
- RE: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… David Harrington
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Bernard Aboba
- Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (ne… Randy Presuhn