Re: Tombstone README for FTP service

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Thu, 28 April 2022 17:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: Tombstone README for FTP service
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Am 28.04.2022 um 19:27 schrieb Keith Moore:
> On 4/28/22 12:28, Julian Reschke wrote:
>
>> Hmmm. WebDAV? What's missing?
>
> WebDAV probably has enough features for this.   I've just never seen it
> used in this way.
>
>   * Can a user anonymously and easily mount a webdav remote file system
>     as a file system under each of linux, macos, windows?

That was true 10 years ago (with some interop problems in the MS
client), but support might have degraded since because
Google/Apple/Microsoft have been pushing their proprietary stuff instead.

>   * Are there GUI interfaces to that permit operations on multiple files
>     at once (identified by patterns and/or a picker) on webdav remote
>     file systems?

The protocol does not support wildcard operations, but GUIs might
emulate them.

>   * Are there robust, readily available, open source programs available
>     to access webdav URLs that support scripting from a shell or other
>     command interpreter?

curl, for instance.

>   * Will webdav work in the presence of likely firewall configurations?

Yes.

> None of these should require administrative/root permission from the
> client system.
>
> (repeat the above questions for NFS and any other supposed FTP replacement)
>
> Keith

Best regards, Julian