Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors
Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> Wed, 18 September 2013 09:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors
From: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>
To: Riccardo Bernardini <framefritti@gmail.com>
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I agree with both, but maybe the problem is that people from academia are not participating enough to report to ADs their concerns (e.g. what is bad in ietf, or lack of diversity), on the other hand, people from industry are more organised and don't need/want the academians ideas/participations :-) AB On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Riccardo Bernardini <framefritti@gmail.com>wrote: > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:14 AM, George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> > wrote: > > Currently, IETF standards activity carries little or no weight for an > > academic career profile. It doesn't appear to have a weighting compared > to > > peer review publication. I think this is a shame, because the > contribution > > is as substantive, if not more so. And, since time is limited and choices > > have to be made, I believe good students/postdocs don't come into our > space > > because the payback isn't there compared to submission into the > peer-review > > process. > > > > (happy to be corrected. this is a belief, not a proven theory) > > I can confirm your theory, at least regarding me. > I come from academia. I came with some enthusiasm, happy to try to get > involved in IETF activities; I subscribed to few WG mailing list, but > after some time I discovered that (unfortunately) the payback for unit > of work was much less than just publishing scientific paper. So, I > unhappily unsubscribed from most of the ML and I stay here, lurking in > the background, waiting for some interesting subject... > > Too bad. > > > >
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- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Brian E Carpenter
- ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Dave Cridland
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Juliao Braga
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Scott Brim
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors joel jaeggli
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John C Klensin
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors David Morris
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Hector Santos
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers John Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers John Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers Dave Cridland
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Brian E Carpenter
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Yoav Nir
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- RE: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers Greg Daley
- RE: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers John R Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John C Klensin
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Joel M. Halpern
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Hector Santos
- RE: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers John C Klensin
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers Dave Cridland
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Michael Richardson
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John C Klensin
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John Levine
- Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for con… Warren Kumari
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Steve Crocker
- RE: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Pat Thaler
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Scott Brim
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Michael Tuexen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Scott Brim
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Michael Tuexen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Carsten Bormann
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Michael Tuexen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Michael Tuexen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Hector Santos
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Hector Santos
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Tony Hansen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Yoav Nir
- Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for con… Warren Kumari
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Hector Santos
- Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for con… Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Juliao Braga
- Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for con… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John Levine
- Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for con… John Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors George Michaelson
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andrew G. Malis
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Riccardo Bernardini
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Riccardo Bernardini
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Ted Lemon
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Stephen Farrell
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Tony Hansen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John C Klensin
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Spencer Dawkins
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Noel Chiappa
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John Levine