Re: I-D Action: draft-kucherawy-nomcom-procexp-00.txt
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Sun, 10 April 2016 16:43 UTC
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From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
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Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-kucherawy-nomcom-procexp-00.txt
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--On Saturday, April 09, 2016 21:46 -0700 "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Brian E Carpenter < > brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Regardless, I would think we would want challenges that said >> things like "Brian Carpenter really hasn't been active enough >> in the last couple of years to be able to evaluate the >> candidates" rather than vaguely suggest that he is isn't >> suitable. > Does bullet 3 in Section 2 need to say more than it does now > on that topic? Murray, I don't know if my concern aligns with Brian's or not, but I would think that there needs to be some impediment to secret challenges that are based on innuendo, especially so because there has traditionally been no appeal model for challenges (and you don't add one). On the other hand, encouraging public slander is not a good idea either. Perhaps the text in Section 2 might be improved by: (i) Making it a bit more clear that, while less that the historical attendance level is grounds for a challenge, the assumption is that anyone who applies is qualified and that any challenge has to contain sufficient information of substance to overcome that assumptions. I think that is your intent, but the text is a little bit less clear and more discretionary. (ii) Adding a rule that, if someone is challenged and the Nomcom chair upholds the challenge and disqualifies the Nomcom applicant, the challenge and associated correspondence may be made public at the request of the applicant. Perhaps the risk of public disclosure would be sufficient to reduce concerns about possible abuses john
- Re: I-D Action: draft-kucherawy-nomcom-procexp-00… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-kucherawy-nomcom-procexp-00… Yoav Nir
- Re: I-D Action: draft-kucherawy-nomcom-procexp-00… Michael Richardson
- Re: I-D Action: draft-kucherawy-nomcom-procexp-00… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: I-D Action: draft-kucherawy-nomcom-procexp-00… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-kucherawy-nomcom-procexp-00… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: I-D Action: draft-kucherawy-nomcom-procexp-00… John C Klensin
- Re: I-D Action: draft-kucherawy-nomcom-procexp-00… John C Klensin
- Re: I-D Action: draft-kucherawy-nomcom-procexp-00… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-kucherawy-nomcom-procexp-00… Michael Richardson