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Re: ietf.org unaccessible for Tor users

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Wed, 16 March 2016 19:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: ietf.org unaccessible for Tor users
To: Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>
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From: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 20:29:58 +0100
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Adam,

As I've told others, if this were JUST about access, I wouldn't care. 
I'm quite confident that many criminals have read and used our specs. 
That's the price of free and open society.  We can't and shouldn't
control that.  But it's not just about access, for reasons previously
mentioned.  As to the moral argument, the moment it's more than access,
we become a party to this activity when we make an accommodation for
Tor.  And in case you missed it, I referenced several negative aspects
of the Tor network earlier, and I'm sure you could easily find plenty
more.  There was nothing sidelong about it.

Eliot

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