WAIT. Take a moment. Re: A sad farewell

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Thu, 05 November 2020 09:10 UTC

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Subject: WAIT. Take a moment. Re: A sad farewell
From: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
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Henrik,

I can only add to what others said in terms of thanks and appreciation.  

I have a question for you and the leadership:

Is there the opportunity for both you and IETF leadership take this lengthy and well deserved stream of thanks and appreciation as an indication that we do not want to lose another valued member of our community, and maybe have a few more discussions?  I know that’s asking a lot, and I am certain that there are things I don’t know about this situation, but perhaps there is some as-of-yet unexplored avenue; an RSET, if you will.  It may be stressful for all of you in the short run, and in the end it may come to naught, but perhaps – perhaps – it could be beneficial to all in the longer term.

Eliot