Re: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria

Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net> Wed, 19 October 2005 18:09 UTC

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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:08:36 -0700
From: Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
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Brian,

> Unfortunately, that won't help us broaden IETF participation to bring
> in people from countries that currently don't have many participants. 
> On the
> contrary, it will tend to freeze our participation profile where it is
> today. On a long term basis, that would not be good for the IETF, IMHO.

Worrying about expanding the diversity of participation in IETF meetings 
made quite a lot of sense when the IETF was initially expanding, along 
with global adoption of the Internet's technology.

It is far less clear why that is a significant factor in current venue 
choices. 

Productivity of working groups would seem to be far, far more important.

An implication of this is that a venue which gets lots of local 
participation, but which winds up getting LESS participation among the 
primary contributors to working groups, would be a poor choice.

Statistics about attendance seem to focus on total numbers, rather than 
participation by primary contributors.

d/


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