Re: Hum theatre
"Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com> Thu, 07 November 2013 08:50 UTC
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From: "Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com>
To: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Hum theatre
Thread-Topic: Hum theatre
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Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 08:50:52 +0000
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On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> wrote: > Why privacy threats were not addressed before users noticed the attacks and that the designers failed? There are two fundamental reasons. One is that we didn't recognize the issues at the time. The other, in the words of an RFC author who looked me (as IETF Chair) in the eye while I was demanding a reasonable security considerations discussion in his draft, is "my customers will not pay for the extra enhancements and effort that go into a secure solution."
- Hum theatre Dave Crocker
- Re: Hum theatre Yoav Nir
- Re: Hum theatre Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Hum theatre Tim Bray
- Re: Hum theatre Randy Bush
- Re: Hum theatre Jorge Amodio
- Re: Hum theatre Larry Masinter
- Re: Hum theatre Ralph Droms
- Re: Hum theatre Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: Hum theatre Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Hum theatre Ted Lemon
- Hum theatre Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Hum theatre Francis Dupont
- Re: Hum theatre Pete Resnick
- Re: Hum theatre Stefan Winter
- Re: Hum theatre Martin J. Dürst
- Re: Hum theatre Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: Hum theatre Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: Hum theatre Stefan Winter
- Re: Hum theatre Richard Barnes
- Re: Hum theatre Christian de Larrinaga
- Re: Hum theatre Arturo Servin
- Re: Hum theatre Dave Crocker
- Re: Hum theatre Scott Brim
- Re: Hum theatre Randy Bush
- Re: Hum theatre Bob Hinden
- Re: Hum theatre Tim Bray
- Re: Hum theatre Randy Bush
- Re: Hum theatre Paul Hoffman
- Re: Hum theatre Scott Brim
- Re: Hum theatre Klaas Wierenga (kwiereng)
- Re: Hum theatre Klaas Wierenga (kwiereng)
- Re: Hum theatre Carsten Bormann
- Re: Hum theatre Dave Crocker
- Re: Hum theatre Pete Resnick
- Re: Hum theatre Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Hum theatre Jari Arkko
- Re: Hum theatre Jari Arkko
- Re: Hum theatre Richard Barnes
- Re: Hum theatre Klaas Wierenga (kwiereng)
- Re: Hum theatre Pete Resnick
- Re: Hum theatre Dave Cridland
- Re: Hum theatre Ted Lemon
- Re: Hum theatre Dave Crocker
- Re: Hum theatre Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Hum theatre Jorge Amodio