Re: Old directions in social media.

Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> Thu, 07 January 2021 18:57 UTC

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From: Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 10:56:42 -0800
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Subject: Re: Old directions in social media.
To: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
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This is not an abstract debate. I'm co-chairing the recently-chartered
jsonpath WG and the co-editors said "we can use GitHub, right?"

We have to face the fact that this will inevitably create two separate
channels where design discussions will occur; GitHub issues and the mailing
list.  On the other hand, I appreciate the commitment of co-editors and am
very reluctant to tell them they shouldn't use the tools that make them
productive.

[BTW, as we discuss this let's keep a clear discussion between the
admittedly-arcane git semantics and the fairly-reasonable issue/diff
management offered by GitHub.]

People who find all this worrying should start girding up their loins for
the inevitable wave of people wanting to take it all to Slack… [/me ducks]






On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:35 AM Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:

> On whether I have watched git, I have seen the emails that git produces.
>   As other people have commented, they are extremely hard to use for a
> discussion.   That is why I keep talking about useful and udnerstandable
> emails.
>
> Yours,
> Joel
>
> On 1/7/2021 1:21 PM, Salz, Rich wrote:
> >>     Sorry, a once a week summary, no matter how good, does not let
> someone
> >      engage in the conversation.  Also, responding to emails from such a
> >      summary in a fashion that is understandable is quite difficult.
> >
> > Your also comment brings to mind a question I asked earlier:  did you
> ever subscribe to the RISKS or other digests?  Ever reply to a posting
> there?
> >
> > Have you followed any GitHub repo's, and seen the email that comes when
> someone comments on an issue or pull request?  Did you know you can click
> on "watch"?
> https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/github/managing-subscriptions-and-notifications-on-github/configuring-notifications
> >
> >>     So no, I do not consider that a useful middle ground.
> >
> > Your turn to make a proposal.
> >
> >
>
>