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Re: Registration details for IETF 108

Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> Sat, 13 June 2020 21:23 UTC

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From: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, IETF Rinse Repeat <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Registration details for IETF 108
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Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
    >> IMNSHO I don’t think pursuing awkward 2D MMORPG-style interaction is
    >> useful.  gather reminds me most of 1990’s PARC spin-off PlaceWare.
    >>
    >> For moving IETF online, I’d suggest hiring some group that does it for
    >> a living https://www.diplomacy.edu/conference-tech-lab

    > looks like commercial folk who dress well consulting to help you select
    > from 1990s 2d mmorpgs, particularly the commercial ones owned by big
    > corporates.  that will fit well in to the new ietf corporate model.

    > lisa actually tried to get open standards 3d mmorpg going, but ietf was
    > not interested.

I don't think that is accurate.
Randy, it's not always the IETF that is problem.

From what I could tell, none of the participating companies wanted to ceed
revision control to the IETF, let alone adopt a system that might be based
upon their competitors specifications.

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