Re: GitHub blockage in Spain

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Sat, 02 November 2019 15:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: GitHub blockage in Spain
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 08:31:12 -0700
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Brian,

> On Nov 1, 2019, at 12:02 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> IMHO we should not discuss here any aspect except the narrow technical one whether a successful IETF meeting in Madrid in July 2020 is possible. In fact it seems to be the responsibility of IASA, and the meeting planners in particular, to check this and let us know if there are any risks.

The requirements for an IETF network clearly state that it should be unfiltered.   Specifically from https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/admin/meeting-network-requirements/ :

     The transit provided in support of the IETF MUST be capable of providing access
     to the IPv4 and IPv6 default free zones without the imposition of content
     filtering (e.g., URL, Site, application, port, or DPI based filtering).”

Bob


> 
> I certainly don't want to enter into political debates here, on matters where most of us are ill-informed and not personally affected.
> 
> Regards
>   Brian Carpenter
>