Re: location, location Rebooked venues
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Wed, 03 June 2020 01:45 UTC
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From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
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Subject: Re: location, location Rebooked venues
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In article <CAKr6gn1Mu3xTEAnp0tGLRc=Kw+s0gOao4SbP3Hn5KzEM7w__PQ@mail.gmail.com> you write: >My only concern is that the ESTA/CBP barriers to entry for IETF >participants who have travel issues to the USA remain. We are in >effect normalising US foreign policy discrimination against IETF >participation F2F No matter where we meet, people will have trouble getting there. When we met in Montreal, some people had problems getting visas. Canada now requires an online document called an eTA which is not accidentally similar to the ESTA in the US. Hypothetically we might try to meet in Mexico (ICANN has met in Cancun) but the international connections to Mexico are much sparser than to the US or Canada, and if people have to transit the US to get there, now they have two visa problems instead of one. Finally, we have no idea what the political climate will be like in the US in 2023. Depending on the results of the 2020 and 2022 elections, getting visas might be more difficult or less difficult than it is now and I would not want to hazard a guess which. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
- Re: Rebooked venues selected for IETF 112, IETF 1… George Michaelson
- Re: location, location Rebooked venues John Levine
- Re: location, location Rebooked venues Töma Gavrichenkov
- Re: location, location Rebooked venues Eliot Lear
- Re: Rebooked venues selected for IETF 112, IETF 1… Christopher Morrow
- Re: Rebooked venues selected for IETF 112, IETF 1… Mary B
- Re: Rebooked venues selected for IETF 112, IETF 1… John C Klensin
- Re: Rebooked venues selected for IETF 112, IETF 1… Christopher Morrow
- Re: Rebooked venues selected for IETF 112, IETF 1… Mary B
- Re: Rebooked venues selected for IETF 112, IETF 1… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Rebooked venues selected for IETF 112, IETF 1… Christopher Morrow
- Re: Rebooked venues selected for IETF 112, IETF 1… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Rebooked venues selected for IETF 112, IETF 1… Mark Nottingham
- Re: Rebooked venues selected for IETF 112, IETF 1… John C Klensin
- Re: Rebooked venues selected for IETF 112, IETF 1… Fred Baker
- Re: Rebooked venues selected for IETF 112, IETF 1… Mark Andrews
- Re: Rebooked venues selected for IETF 112, IETF 1… John C Klensin
- Re: Rebooked venues selected for IETF 112, IETF 1… Jay Daley
- Re: Rebooked venues selected for IETF 112, IETF 1… John C Klensin