Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Submissions Editor

Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> Fri, 13 September 2019 19:25 UTC

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From: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 12:25:32 -0700
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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Submissions Editor
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
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On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:47 AM Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:

> > Thanks for the quick and careful reply.  After reading your note, I
> > think everything was done correctly and with the right timing up to
> > the point that Adrian indicated he was willing to continue.  After
> > that, it would have been a reasonable option to ask him if he was
> > willing to extend for some months as necessary to let other things
> > settle down before you launched the feedback period.
>
> when one dos not acknowledge that there are serious underlying problems,
> it is easiest to deflect and claim paper rituals [0].
>
> [0] - for an amazing, ans thankfully unrelated, exercise of this form of
>       denial, see mit and harvard dealing with the epstein issue.
>

Had the Media Lab followed MIT's policies, it would have regarded Epstein
as disqualified [1] and not dealt with him, thus saving them the current
trouble.  If anything, the Media Lab example calls for less disregard for
rules that are designed to keep institutions on track.

--Richard

[1]
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-an-elite-university-research-center-concealed-its-relationship-with-jeffrey-epstein