Re: Corrected announcement of NomCom members

[Behcet Sarikaya <[e-mail]>]

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 9:59 AM Salz, Rich <rsalz=[e-mail]>
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>    - The list posted here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/ann/504888/
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/ann/504888/__;!!GjvTz_vk!U7yR-PTGDDPOBngkMqkdv3HOt-Z9irtQPeRVrvTJYDuAM4uQ37hQgUxAiQwtJmz1zGiwtd134ymvLg$>
>    contains both Barry Leiba and Victor Kuarsingh, both of whom are ineligible
>    because they serve on the ISOC Board of Trustees at the moment.  I believe
>    you were notified of both prior to the running of the algorithm, during the
>    challenge period.  Barry followed up with a question on this on August 8th:
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> I had thought that this was considered resolved after multiple threads in
> the ietf@ mailing list. This thread, among others.
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> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/S5W5hjCpld2ZSmUsjhM96p5cDNY/
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> But it probably deserves a summary, here.
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> RFC 3797 (quoted by Kyle) says
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> > >    The best way to handle this is to maintain the announced schedule,
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> > >    INCLUDE in the published pool all those whose eligibility is
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> > >    uncertain and to keep the published pool list numbering IMMUTABLE
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> > >    after its publication.  If someone in the pool is later selected by
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> > >    the algorithm and random input but it has been determined they are
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> > >    ineligible, they can be skipped and the algorithm run further to
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> > >    an additional selection.
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> I had said the only thing I considered normative from 8713 was the
> algorithm. Others, including Mary Barnes, explained that this was wrong; I
> retracted that and agreed that the right thing is to follow the quoted
> paragraph above.
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> I was wrong to use a list that was modified after I posted the final. It
> was my mistake to not notice and remove various Board members until after
> the July 25 posting. But the process has mechanisms to handle that and that
> is what I (belatedly) followed.
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Seems to be not a good start. I wish a very very happy end. 👍🏻

Behcet

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> Hope this addresses the concern.
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> -Rich Salz, 2022 NomCom chair.
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