Re: What ASN.1 got right

Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> Tue, 02 March 2021 18:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: What ASN.1 got right
To: Dirk-Willem van Gulik <dirkx@webweaving.org>
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On 3/2/21 12:33 AM, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> On 2 Mar 2021, at 02:18, Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> wrote:
>
>> The combination of ASN.1 and X.509 has done irreparable harm to identity on the internet. X.509 provides exactly one benefit: the ability to verify offline that almost nobody cares about anymore.
> Actually - to provide a counter point - with the current Covid-19 response effort - the fact that we have X.509 (and CMS, pkcs7/10) and can do off-line verification is proving to be a great asset.  As it allows for verification of signatures without the need for the verifier to instantly disclose to world+dog what they are doing. And this is in addition to the ability of any app to set up trusted connections based on cached/offline data. So I would not discount this aspect too quickly.
>
Er, how so? And what does it have to do with the covids? And once you 
rely on online crl's, it's all the same.

Mike