Re: Evolving Documents (nee "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.

Heather Flanagan <rse@rfc-editor.org> Wed, 03 July 2019 22:44 UTC

Return-Path: <rse@rfc-editor.org>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BD5120680 for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:44:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -4.198
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TSWTDVuVKx8R for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:44:26 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEB6C120630 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:44:26 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315261C1378; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:44:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5QSuIR8KDHdU; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:44:10 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [10.198.42.38] (c-71-231-216-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.231.216.10]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EDF9A1C135A; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:44:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Heather Flanagan <rse@rfc-editor.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_899C4869-C437-4863-849C-08E3486CBFD7"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\))
Subject: Re: Evolving Documents (nee "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 15:44:25 -0700
References: <CAHw9_iKv7xDY-rT98F_BAEvGOGbWGL7UpXS42rSVLsHB+=SOZg@mail.gmail.com> <4567879e-aa29-aeae-72e9-33d148d30eed@network-heretics.com> <CAL02cgToQWmOrfOxS_dc4KRtT9e0PXNzmhWZHkRUyV_3V=E-mQ@mail.gmail.com> <0856af71-4d84-09d1-834d-12ac7252420c@network-heretics.com> <CAL02cgQ9qWVUTPW=Cpx=r32k3i1PLgfp5ax0pKMdH0nKObcKTg@mail.gmail.com> <e8d28a7f-128d-e8d0-17d3-146c6ff5b546@joelhalpern.com> <7A61E9CE-370F-4C09-A79D-0206B8467AD9@sobco.com> <CAHw9_i+V5xVzQNhYV_Tt-J4Z2S_x5VARbg1naJToLqxS1qXnZA@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Scott O. Bradner" <sob@sobco.com>, IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAHw9_i+V5xVzQNhYV_Tt-J4Z2S_x5VARbg1naJToLqxS1qXnZA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-Id: <355B50AE-0C14-47D5-8ABC-57F1669F0423@rfc-editor.org>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/ec6unKU1VvcsZ1GCNwJrW_bqCsE>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 22:44:36 -0000


> On Jul 3, 2019, at 3:32 PM, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:38 PM Scott O. Bradner <sob@sobco.com <mailto:sob@sobco.com>> wrote:
> see “stable snapshot” in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bradner-ietf-stds-trk-01 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bradner-ietf-stds-trk-01>
> 
> Ah, nice, thanks.. There are some definite parallels with this. What we were proposing is similar, but less “strong” - it doesn’t have anything like IETF / IESG consensus, rather just “this is what the *WG* currently thinks”.

Ohhh, this is useful, thank you! I tried to do an archive search to find out why that draft stopped at -01. Would you be willing to share why the idea was rejected and/or did not get traction?

-Heather
(Now from the correct email address)