RE: AD Sponsorship of draft-moonesamy-recall-rev

["Adrian Farrel" <[e-mail]>]

Thanks for this email, Alissa. It's interesting. I presume it means that the IESG is unanimous, because it only takes one AD to AD sponsor a draft.

BoFs are very good forums for debating stuff. Good for focussing in on requirements. Good for scoping work. Good for establishing a community to do the work.

But:
- why wait until Montreal to discuss this?
- why use a predominantly face-to-face meeting to discuss an issue that is considerably about non-attendance at face-to-face meetings?
- what more work is needed beyond debating the content of the current draft?

Can I suggest:
- An AD needs to "adopt" this idea. That doesn't mean support it, but it does mean facilitation
- A mailing list venue is needed (either this list or a new specific list)
- A virtual/interim BoF be held in (say) four weeks from now.

Why rush? We've lasted this long with the current system, why do a few extra months matter?

Well, the answer is that the energy to do the work is there now. Let's use that energy to discuss and (if agreed) make changes. Let's not risk anyone suggesting that we are deferring discussions in the hope that the issue goes away :-)

Thanks,
Adrian
-----Original Message-----
From: ietf <[e-mail]> On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper
Sent: 17 April 2019 15:46
To: S Moonesamy <[e-mail]>
Cc: John C Klensin <[e-mail]>; IESG <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
Subject: Re: AD Sponsorship of draft-moonesamy-recall-rev

Hi SM,

> On Apr 5, 2019, at 12:08 PM, S Moonesamy <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> Dear General Area Director,
> 
> In March, I sent a message to the IETF discussion list about the recall process.  As you are probably aware, there was a lively discussion on the subject.  I submitted an I-D [1] about the subject.  There were a comments on the I-D and they were addressed in draft-moonesamy-recall-rev-01
> 
> I am enquiring about whether you, or any other Area Director, would like to sponsor the I-D or whether you would like a proposal for a working group to look into the draft and other related issues.

I discussed this with the IESG and our recommendation is for you to submit a BOF proposal if you’d like to pursue this further. We think these kinds of changes to the IETF’s governance structure need the more in-depth problem statement discussion and broader review that a chartering process and working group would provide.

Thanks,
Alissa

> 
> Regards,
> S. Moonesamy
> 
> 1. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moonesamy-recall-rev-01
>