Re: Resignation request
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 02 March 2020 23:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: Resignation request
To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>, ietf@ietf.org
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On 03-Mar-20 11:00, Keith Moore wrote: > On 3/2/20 3:54 PM, Job Snijders wrote: > >> It don't work like that. To me it seems somewhat questionable to accuse someone of not following a process and at the same time side-stepping process. You can of course respectfully disagree as professionals, but please avoid launching a witch hunt is dangerous and should be avoided. > > Witch hunts are indeed bad, but public airing of issues is one of the > ways that IETF has kept itself honest throughout its history. I don't > think it's appropriate to expect people to air such issues only through > back channels. Transparency is essential. > > Of course, people should take care to judge such complaints on their > actual merits (if they choose to investigate in detail), not on the > volume of traffic or on how vituperative it is. > > I hope these documents get thorough review from the wider community and > not just from within the working group. To be fair, the draft in question has been (vigorously) discussed in both SPRING and 6MAN, and the authors have been putting out new versions. I'm among those who think that the draft still isn't ready for an IETF last call, but let's wait a bit before the lynching. Brian
- Resignation request Sander Steffann
- Re: Resignation request Andrew Alston
- Re: Resignation request Job Snijders
- Re: Resignation request Sander Steffann
- Fwd: Resignation request Fernando Gont
- Re: Resignation request Job Snijders
- Re: Resignation request Nick Hilliard
- Re: Resignation request Sander Steffann
- Re: Resignation request Melchior Aelmans
- Re: Resignation request Job Snijders
- Re: Resignation request Ted Hardie
- Re: Resignation request Sander Steffann
- Re: Resignation request Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Resignation request Sander Steffann
- Re: Resignation request Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Resignation request Andrew Alston
- Re: Resignation request Keith Moore
- Re: Resignation request Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Resignation request Stewart Bryant
- Re: Resignation request Loa Andersson
- Timeout Request: Was: Resignation request Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Resignation request Alex Bogdanov
- Fw: FW: [spring] Resignation request licong@chinatelecom.cn
- Re: Resignation request Nico Williams
- Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Pete Resnick
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Warren Kumari
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Paul Wouters
- RE: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Andrew Alston
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Fernando Gont
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Pete Resnick
- RE: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) S Moonesamy
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Paul Wouters
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Pete Resnick
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Pete Resnick
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) S Moonesamy
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Pete Resnick
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Eric Rescorla
- RE: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Larry Masinter
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Eric Rescorla
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Phillip Hallam-Baker
- RE: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Larry Masinter