Re: PS Characterization Clarified
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Tue, 17 September 2013 11:44 UTC
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 07:44:13 -0400
From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
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Subject: Re: PS Characterization Clarified
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--On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:47 +0200 Olaf Kolkman <olaf@NLnetLabs.nl> wrote: > > > Based on the conversation below I converged to: > > > <t> > While less mature specifications will usually be > published as Informational or Experimental RFCs, the > IETF may, in exceptional cases, publish a specification > that still contains areas for improvement or certain > uncertainties about whether the best engineering choices > are made. In those cases that fact will be clearly and > prominently communicated in the document e.g. in the > abstract, the introduction, or a separate section or statement. > </t> I suggest that "communicated in the document e.g. in..." now essentially amounts to "... communicated in the document, e.g. in the document." since the examples span the entire set of possibilities. Consequently, for editorial reasons and in the interest of brevity, I recommend just stopping after "prominently communicated in the document.". But, since the added words are not harmful, I have no problem with your leaving them if you prefer. john
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