Re: Appeal/Request for Review (was: Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Provisions (TLP))
Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Wed, 26 August 2009 14:36 UTC
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:13:54 -0400
To: Margaret Wasserman <mrw@lilacglade.org>
From: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
Subject: Re: Appeal/Request for Review (was: Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Provisions (TLP))
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Margaret: I do not want to speak for Bob or Marshall. However, Bob is away from email, and I have not seen responses from Marshall to any email that I sent him recently, so Marshall is either away or swamped. The Trustees have agreed to the points that will be made in the response to John Klensin's request for review. The Trustees are waiting to see the final text. Once that text is presented and wordsmithed, it will be posted. I expected that to happen before now, but August schedules have interfered. Russ At 10:19 PM 8/25/2009, Margaret Wasserman wrote: >Hi Marshall and Bob, > >Could you please let us know the current status of this appeal? > >In the plenary in Stockholm, I understood you to say that you _do_ >consider the decisions of the IAOC and the Trust to be subject to the >appeals procedure, which I think is a good decision. However, it has >been about 6 weeks since this appeal was sent, and I do not see a >location on the IAOC/Trust web pages where the appeal text is posted, >nor have I seen any response. > >I think that there are several very valid points in John's appeal, and >I largely agree with it. I note that the IAOC has already begun the >process of bringing the minutes up to date, which I consider to be an >important step. Could you help me to understand how you are reacting >or responding to other portions of this appeal? > >Thanks, >Margaret > > >On Jul 18, 2009, at 3:38 PM, John C Klensin wrote: >>--On Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:55 -0400 Marshall Eubanks >><tme@americafree.tv> wrote: >> >>>Hello; >>> >>>We (the Trustees) have received feedback on the proposed >>>changes to the Trust Legal Provisions (TLP) and have agreed to >>>take the following actions. Since the original call went out >>>on the 23rd of June, the comment period is extended to the >>>23rd of July. >>>... >> >>Marshall, >> >>While I believe these changes are all improvements, I also >>recall several additional sets of comments on the IETF mailing >>list, including those that addressed the issues of: >[...] > >>Consequently, by this message to you and copy of this note to >>the IAOC Chair, and under the provisions of Section 3.5 of RFC >>4071, I formally request that the Trustees review their actions, >>that the IAOC review the actions of the Trustees as part of the >>IASA process, and that the following actions be taken: > >[...] >
- Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Provis… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [IAB] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Le… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Simon Josefsson
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Russ Housley
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… John C Klensin
- RE: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Contreras, Jorge
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Andrew Sullivan
- RE: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Yaakov Stein
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Simon Josefsson
- RE: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Yaakov Stein
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Sam Hartman
- RE: [Trustees] [IAB] Proposed Revisions to the IE… Contreras, Jorge
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Robert Elz
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Tom.Petch
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Tom.Petch
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Simon Josefsson
- RE: [Trustees] [IAB] Proposed Revisions to the IE… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… John C Klensin
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Marshall Eubanks
- Appeal/Request for Review (was: Re: Proposed Revi… John C Klensin
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [IAB] [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IE… Russ Housley
- Re: [IAB] [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IE… Doug Ewell
- Re: [IAB] [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IE… Russ Housley
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Henk Uijterwaal
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Ray Pelletier
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… John C Klensin
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Henk Uijterwaal
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Henk Uijterwaal
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… John C Klensin
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Fred Baker
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Pete Resnick
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Henk Uijterwaal
- Re: Appeal/Request for Review (was: Re: Proposed … Margaret Wasserman
- Re: Appeal/Request for Review (was: Re: Proposed … Russ Housley
- Re: Appeal/Request for Review (was: Re: Proposed … Marshall Eubanks