Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your comments on ...
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Mon, 26 January 2009 22:16 UTC
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Paul Hoffman wrote: > That list could be pre-populated with email addresses from all current IETF lists to which the "note well" has been sent. Seems a bit silly to me. You're opting me in automatically to some newish, demonstrably broken, IPR stuff? (5378 I mean.) No thanks if that was your suggestion. For me this isn't theoretic. We're doing a 3281bis right now. I guess some of the text I contributed goes back a decade or more. Two of the relevant employers I've had in that time are defunct, with various bits having been sold to various other entities after I left 'em. Last I knew one possibly relevant part had been bought by the philanthropic sounding "Aquisitor Bermuda Inc." who just don't sound like the kind of folks who want to waste their lawyer guineas counting IETF angels on or off pins. I will not be making any assertion about the rights to that text that's very different from what was the case at the time. Even asking me to do so is just plain dumb. I'd use another word for the suggestion that it be the default. My suggestion: new stuff - what 5378 wanted; old stuff: status quo ante (pre-5378), and let whoever wants to use text outside the IETF context and/or translations go figure out if they think they're in the clear or not. I also think words to that effect should be in all boilerplate and shouldn't have to be selected or not by every user of xml2rfc. Stephen. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- RE: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… John C Klensin
- ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your comme… Ed Juskevicius
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… John C Klensin
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Simon Josefsson
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Scott Brim
- RE: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Contreras, Jorge
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Paul Hoffman
- Document posting schedule pragmatics (was: Re: AN… John C Klensin
- RE: Document posting schedule pragmatics (was: Re… Ed Juskevicius
- RE: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Dave Nelson
- RE: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… John C Klensin
- RE: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Dave Nelson
- RE: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… John C Klensin
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… John Levine
- RE: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Dave Nelson
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Doug Ewell
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Paul Hoffman
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Dave CROCKER
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Theodore Tso
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… John C Klensin
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Ken Raeburn
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Sam Hartman
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Paul Hoffman
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Dave CROCKER
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… John C Klensin
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… SM
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Stephen Farrell
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Dean Willis
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… Dean Willis
- Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your c… John C Klensin