Coercion

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Tue, 26 November 2013 01:00 UTC

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 16:53:49 -0800
To: Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@nominum.com>
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
Subject: Coercion
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Hi Ted,
At 15:58 25-11-2013, Ted Lemon wrote:
>(1) I'm not trying to impugn the good work that 
>was done in securing the root key.   It was good 
>work, and I think it was very cool.   I am just 
>asking if, despite that good work, an NSL could 
>get around it.   It's a fair question.   The 
>answer may be "no," or "not without it becoming 
>public," or "with great difficulty."   I doubt 
>it's "easily."   But it's worth asking.   When 
>you did the root signing, we were certainly 
>thinking about this threat model, but it was a 
>bit more academic then than it is now.   I think 
>we still had some illusions that the U.S. 
>government at least would choose a more 
>constrained attack than taking the key to 
>everything; we now know that the government 
>feels no such burden of restraint—they 
>apparently feel that they can be trusted with 
>that key, and we should be willing to provide it.

In my opinion the question was a valid one.  It 
is not clear though.  I agree with Joe that it 
sounds like a question for ICANN.

I asked some questions about the DPS 
previously.  One of the questions was about 
coercion.  I was okay with the response I received at that time.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy