Re: IPR Disclosures for draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 18 September 2013 19:57 UTC

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On 17/09/2013 05:34, Alan Clark wrote:
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> It should be noted that the duty to disclose IPR is NOT ONLY for the authors
> of a draft, and the IETF "reminder" system seems to be focused solely on
> authors. The duty to disclose IPR lies with any individual or company that
> participates in the IETF not just authors.

Companies don't participate in the IETF; the duty of disclosure is
specifically placed on individual contributors and applies to
patents "reasonably and personally known" to them.

IANAL but I did read the BCP.

   Brian