Re: Last Call on draft-bradner-rfc3979bis-08.txt ("Intellectual Property Rights in IETF Technology")

Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 30 March 2016 16:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: Last Call on draft-bradner-rfc3979bis-08.txt ("Intellectual Property Rights in IETF Technology")
From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
To: Scott O Bradner <sob@sobco.com>
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Hi, Scott,

On Mar 30, 2016 11:28 AM, "Scott Bradner" <sob@sobco.com> wrote:
>
> this was the (strong?) consensus of the IPR BOF

That wouldn't surprise me.

At a minimum, I'm sort of surprised that the scope isn't the WGs the AD is
responsible for.

Within my WGs, I'm usually pretty much clued and up to date. On Martin's
side of TSV, I'm much less involved, and don't read every message.

And TSV is one of the smaller areas. I'm sure that practice varies between
areas, of course.

I hope someone asks about this at plenary next week :-)

Spencer

> Scott
>
> > On Mar 30, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo <
Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Section 1 (Definitions), subsection k says the following:
> >
> >>      Without limiting the generality of the
> >>      foregoing, acting as a working group chair or Area Director
> >>      constitutes "Participating" in all activities of the relevant
> >>      working group or area.
> >
> > The AD of a large area may not get to read all individual I-Ds or all
> > email messages sent in all the WGs of the area. We may want to define
> > this a bit more explicitly.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Gonzalo
> >
> > On 22/03/2016 2:17 PM, Jari Arkko wrote:
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> RFC 3979 was published in 2005. Since then we’ve gathered a lot of
experience, and we’d like to update the RFC with that experience. This
isn’t a revolution of the IETF IPR approach, it is mostly about
clarification, better documentation, and recognising some other new RFCs
and changes. But the document itself has changed quite a lot and structured
differently than RFC 3979 was.
> >>
> >> Some of the main issues (such as how to define participation) were
discussed in the IETF-87 meeting, but there are also a number of other
changes in this document. Please give this document a careful read, and let
us know your feedback.
> >>
> >> I am starting a last call on this document today, but gave a longer
last call period to make sure everyone has enough time to comment after
IETF-95 as well. And thanks for the comments that some of you have already
sent after the document was published; we’ve observed them and will make
them part of the feedback from the Last Call.
> >>
> >> The document is available here:
> >>
> >>   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bradner-rfc3979bis/
> >>   https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bradner-rfc3979bis-08
> >>
> >> Jari Arkko (as the responsible AD for this document)
> >>
> >
>