Re: How IETF treats contributors

"william(at)elan.net" <william@elan.net> Mon, 30 August 2004 22:20 UTC

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To: Ted Hardie <hardie@qualcomm.com>
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Subject: Re: How IETF treats contributors
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> At 4:55 PM -0400 8/30/04, Dean Anderson wrote:
> >
> >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-marid-core-03.txt
> >
> >http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2002/msg00658.html
> >
> >The idea came from David Green, and Vixie says it originated from Jim
> >Miller in 1998.  Vixie had little or nothing to do with it. Why the draft
> >claims the earliest known work is due to Vixie is unclear.
> >
> >		--Dean
> 
> Elided below is the actual draft, "Repudiating Mail From".  The citation
> is to the earliest known work (in other words, the earliest place someone
> wrote down a solution based on this idea).  If you would like to suggest
> to the authors of marid-core that Jim Miller ought to be cited as the source
> of the idea from which Vixie's work was derived, I'm sure they will 
> consider it. 

Jim Miller is sited as original source of the idea in section 10 on page 31
of draft-ietf-marid-protocol-02 (i.e. SPF syntax & format draft), see
 http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-marid-protocol-02.txt
I've  never heard  before of David Green as being source of the idea, if 
he's still around, we may ask him and Vixie and Jim Miller about the exact 
details and if they are satisified with current information in acknolidgement
sections of MARID drafts. But based on message from namedroppers sited by 
Dean, it seems that David Green came up with idea separate and already 
after Vixie wrote original "Repudiating Mail From" draft. 

It would however be appropriate to have the same list of prior work in
acknolidgement section of marid-core draft as in marid-protocol draft

-- 
William Leibzon
Elan Networks
william@elan.net


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