Re: How IETF treats contributors
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To: Ted Hardie <hardie@qualcomm.com>
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Subject: Re: How IETF treats contributors
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> At 4:55 PM -0400 8/30/04, Dean Anderson wrote: > > > >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-marid-core-03.txt > > > >http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2002/msg00658.html > > > >The idea came from David Green, and Vixie says it originated from Jim > >Miller in 1998. Vixie had little or nothing to do with it. Why the draft > >claims the earliest known work is due to Vixie is unclear. > > > > --Dean > > Elided below is the actual draft, "Repudiating Mail From". The citation > is to the earliest known work (in other words, the earliest place someone > wrote down a solution based on this idea). If you would like to suggest > to the authors of marid-core that Jim Miller ought to be cited as the source > of the idea from which Vixie's work was derived, I'm sure they will > consider it. Jim Miller is sited as original source of the idea in section 10 on page 31 of draft-ietf-marid-protocol-02 (i.e. SPF syntax & format draft), see http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-marid-protocol-02.txt I've never heard before of David Green as being source of the idea, if he's still around, we may ask him and Vixie and Jim Miller about the exact details and if they are satisified with current information in acknolidgement sections of MARID drafts. But based on message from namedroppers sited by Dean, it seems that David Green came up with idea separate and already after Vixie wrote original "Repudiating Mail From" draft. It would however be appropriate to have the same list of prior work in acknolidgement section of marid-core draft as in marid-protocol draft -- William Leibzon Elan Networks william@elan.net _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- How IETF treats contributors Hadmut Danisch
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Ted Hardie
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Paul Vixie
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Marc Blanchet
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Dean Anderson
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Dean Anderson
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Ted Hardie
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Dean Anderson
- Re: How IETF treats contributors william(at)elan.net
- RE: How IETF treats contributors Christian Huitema
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Dean Anderson
- Re: How IETF treats contributors John Day
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Clint Chaplin
- RE: How IETF treats contributors Thomas Gal
- RE: How IETF treats contributors Nick Carter
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Olaf M. Kolkman
- RE: How IETF treats contributors Scott Bradner
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Vernon Schryver
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Paul Vixie
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Paul Vixie
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Hadmut Danisch
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Hadmut Danisch
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Hadmut Danisch
- RE: How IETF treats contributors ned.freed
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Dean Anderson
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Dean Anderson
- Re: How IETF treats contributors william(at)elan.net
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Nathaniel Borenstein
- Re: How IETF treats contributors ned.freed
- Re: How IETF treats contributors grenville armitage