Re: Status of this memo

Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com> Tue, 27 April 2021 16:06 UTC

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Andy,

quick question, if I may:

Le 2021-04-27 à 17:06, Andrew G. Malis a écrit :
> Keith,
> 
> I disagree. WGs have charters, which result in RFCs. During that 
> process, they have consensus-based working drafts that are refined to 
> meet their charter goals. That's an "adopted" draft. But it doesn't have 
> to be based on a single individual draft, a working draft can be the 
> result of merging earlier individual drafts, or can even originate as a 
> WG draft without a preceding individual draft or drafts. But yes, 
> working drafts do reflect WG consensus, and they have formal standing as 
> such.
At which point in time to do they reflect WG consensus, according to you?
As examples to illustrate my ask: From day 1 or only at "Publication 
Requested" time, or some other time, if any specific one?

-m


> 
> Cheers,
> Andy
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:27 AM Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com 
> <mailto:moore@network-heretics.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 4/27/21 10:17 AM, Salz, Rich wrote:
> 
>>>         There was also a suggestion to add something to the boilerplate text of individual I-Ds along the lines of "anyone can submit an I-D; they have no formal standing until they are adopted by a group in the IETF or IRTF". Would that provide additional clarification?
>>     Oh yes, PLEASE!
> 
>     concur.   Except get rid of the "adopted" bit, because even assuming
>     that "adoption" of a draft by a WG is useful, it doesn't imply any
>     kind of broad support from the organization.   Just say that the
>     existence of a draft does not mean it has any formal standing with
>     IETF or any other organization.   Documents with formal standing in
>     IETF are published as RFCs.
> 
>     Keith
> 
>