Re: Rights in early RFCs

Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> Sat, 15 June 2019 16:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: Rights in early RFCs
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On 6/14/19 7:43 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote:

> On 14 Jun 2019, at 16:14, Scott Bradner wrote:
>
>>> On Jun 14, 2019, at 7:06 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> There were several later rounds of conversations about the
>>> general topic on which Scott Bradber would be m8ch more expert
>>> than I am, but I'd be surprised if the answer from him would be
>>> significantly different from the above.
>>
>> It is not
>>
>> but I do have a question for John Levine - what is the context of 
>> your question?
>>
>> republish? produce a revision? ???
>
> Oddly, I can answer that one. Some people quite outside the IETF want 
> to publish a spec for how to do $foo over the Internet. Their spec 
> quotes small parts of various RFCs to make the requirements clear for 
> the vendors who will implement $foo because those vendors do not 
> normally use IETF standards. They were unsuccessful in finding how to 
> get permission to quote from RFCs, and by circuitous route got to me. 
> I passed them along to the IETF Trust, and that's where John's message 
> originates. (Side-note: they didn't know who Jon Postel was or how to 
> reach him to ask about getting the right to quote RFC 768. I had to 
> break that news to them...)
>
>
That would seem to fall under fair use.  How could quoting a spec NOT be 
considered fair use.

Miles Fidelman



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