Re: first steps (was The other parts of the report...)
Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Mon, 13 September 2004 18:53 UTC
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Subject: Re: first steps (was The other parts of the report...)
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Harald, HTA> but if you add together: ... HTA> I actually think we are reasonably close to a description. That is quite a bit like saying that the presence of a requirements document means that we are 'reasonably close' to a protocol specification. If that were actually a valid assessment, we would not have problems producing protocol specifications after having a requirements document, and it would not take very long. However, if you think we are "reasonably close", then it will not be difficult for you to produce the document that contains the necessary detail, so it can be inspected for concreteness, accuracy and completeness. HTA> I had one series of conversations where I tried to explain what the HTA> secretariat does, and ended up with a puzzled "but where's the big HTA> expensive problem?" - our activities may be far less extraordinary than we HTA> may think. First of all, for any interesting topic, there will always be some people representing any given point of view. So it is not at all significant that you found someone who thinks that none of this is a big deal. It would be more interesting to find someone who believes that and who has real experience organizing and operating the relevant activities (events and processes) that the IETF needs to get done. You will not find such a person, because the actual details required to conduct an operation like this are substantial, and the constant attention to that detail required to keep things running smoothly is daunting. d/ -- Dave Crocker <dcrocker-at-brandenburg-dot-com> Brandenburg InternetWorking <www.brandenburg.com> Sunnyvale, CA USA <tel:+1.408.246.8253> _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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